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I took myself off to see this on Friday and I'm here to offer some thoughts

As soon as I got out of the cinema, I texted my friend 'Kirk and Spock are so totally fucking' and I stand by this. I don't think there's ever any denying the epic love there is between these two characters and this is no exception. They would absolutely do anything for each other and everything else sort of pales in comparison to that. I felt a little disappointed with the lack of scenes with some of the other characters (Chekov, in particular), but then I sort of hit on the fact that it's really always been about Kirk and Spock and that relationship so that really has to come first. I got myself so caught up in the action that I didn't notice the lens flares for the most part of the film. I absolutely definitely cried (dammit, Star Trek- stop doing that to me). I was also so caught up that I honestly didn't realise what was coming next until Kirk knocked Scotty out and then I was like: 'This seems familiar..... Shit!'. And then the tears. I was expecting Spock to say 'I love you' when he was talking to dying Kirk, but I guess 'Because you are my friend' qualifies when it's coming from a Vulcan. I still don't like Spock/Uhura and not just because I'm loving Kirk/Spock. I just think it's a way to get in some kind of het relationship where there doesn't need to be one. I don't think it adds anything. I was muttering 'No. Not Pike' when he died- he was absolutely one of my favourite characters and I love Bruce Greenwood. I don't get the fuss over Benedict Cumberbatch- he's not as amazing as everyone makes him out to be. His presence just kind of irritates me sometimes. I thought the acting was pretty great all round (Zachary Quinto, especially, was wonderful) and I totally buy them as their characters. I was half-expecting, at the end, when Kirk is talking to Carol Marcus about her being part of the family, for the camera to pan out and reveal she's already pregnant, but I guess they're saving that for future instalments.

If Star Trek was Kirk/Spock unresolved sexual tension that totally got resolved by the end, Into Darkness is Kirk/Spock relationship drama where they weren't making it work and broke up inly to realise how much they meant to each other and were reunited by the end. Wonder what part 3 will be about? ;P

I haven't had much chance to look into the fandom, but from what I have seen, it seems like there's not as much as there was about the last film. Do people not care enough about this one or am I just not looking in the right place? Or do I just not care enough to look in the right places? Or is it just too early on after release that there isn't going to be that much anyway? Do I want to find out if I'm going to dive into fic for a few weeks before I lose interest again? Am I thinking too much about it?

Basically, you should go and see this

on 2013-06-13 11:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] flipping-elves.livejournal.com
I went to see this at the IMAX in London and was completely blown away. Yeah of course it was brilliant in 3D on that massive screen, but I found myself really getting into the story.

Let me explain a bit about my STrekkie history, I loved the original series, and TNG, I even liked the early films... but then I sort of lost interest and never saw the last film at all.

I loved that all the characters were there.. Kirk with his women and derring do...I swear to god when he woke up in bed with the 2 cat women after a bender I laughed right out loud. Then we get Spock and Bones being exactly as I remembered them, and Sulu being sort of awesome and Scotty being brilliantly played by Simon Pegg. There was even a tribble... I ask you! Was a bit unsure about Chekov (one of my favs in the series), but I don't remember him being quite such a headless chicken as he was in the film.

I agree with you that the central pairing was the relationship between Kirk and Spock and I DID CRY at the 'Death Scene'. I could have dome without Spock and Uhura being paired... I really didn't feel that added anything at all and just irritated me in general. Benedict Cumberbatch was OK, but a bit too Sherlock and internal for me... still completely taken with him as Sherlock though... cheekbones to die for. The rogue Starfleet officer was a better baddie by far.

All in all I enjoyed it and even joined in speaking the oath with the restof the trekkies in the auditorium, and embarrasing my son at the same time ;)

on 2013-06-14 10:53 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] caz-kenobi.livejournal.com
I'm glad to find someone who thinks the same as I do about this :)

I was way sold on the new Star Trek film during the opening scene when I was practically bawling so I was pretty much going into this expecting to love it and it really paid off

It does seem like they screwed Chekov over here a little, but then there wasn't that much development with him so he's just stayed the young guy they set him up to be in the first film

I guess with Kirk/Spock being the godfather of all pairings, there was going to be some insinuation to that, but they almost played it as if it was an actual thing. Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto were just amazing together

What use is having kids if you can't embarrass them? ;P

on 2013-06-14 11:36 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] flipping-elves.livejournal.com
We Are Awesome

Is the franchise set to continue? If so then yes I think Checkov should be developed a bit more. Although he was never a huge part of ST I guess.

Always such a strong bond between Kirk and Spock, and I never really got to grips with the back story as to why... Was it covered in the film before this??? Have to say, I never ever want to read Spock/Kirk slash...
I think it was the only way to play Kirk and Spock, and it worked for the film. The actors were both great.

Well quite! I even got one up on him because he did not know what a tribblewas, so couldn't understand why people were laughing. However, we did have a rather bizarre conversation about the Kirk/Spock relationship thing on the Tube. Seems he picked up on it right away. Never thought I'd be discussing slash writing with him :O

on 2013-06-14 01:23 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] caz-kenobi.livejournal.com
I think there are rumours of a third movie, but IDK if it's going to actually happen. I hope so

There's more about their backstory in the first film, yeah. I mean, that film basically tells Kirk and Spock getting to Starfleet, but doesn't do that for anyone else. It's really all about them and I do love that because they both play it so well

With Kirk/Spock, though, it's so obvious that you just have to talk about it with people, even your kids

on 2013-06-14 05:21 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] flipping-elves.livejournal.com
3rd films are tricky... sometimes they are too much and lack the brilliance of the first two.

Will try and watch the first one then ..

Yeah, just not so clever when I nearly admitted I red / wrote about it though... Things to learn about being a mum no 2089
Edited on 2013-06-14 05:22 pm (UTC)

on 2013-06-14 06:45 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] caz-kenobi.livejournal.com
They could do something really awesome with Star Trek, though, but then it could also be a massive failure. I'd still go and watch it though

You really should

Yeah, that's probably something you shouldn't mention

on 2013-06-14 08:07 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] flipping-elves.livejournal.com
I would too

I will look out for it

I didn't, but it was a close call :o

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